Ex-Rev Canon Angela Tilby, Christ Church Cathedral Oxford

There’ll soon be a new, super, improved leader of the Conservative Party, who will be so much better than the old one. We really can’t think why you bothered with the old one in the first place when the new one will bring such fantastic improvements to the world.

You can trust this. It’s as reliable as the Big Book of Magic Stuff that tells us that the Invisible Magic Friend definitely exists. And the Big Book of Magic Stuff is never wrong.

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6 thoughts on “Ex-Rev Canon Angela Tilby, Christ Church Cathedral Oxford

  1. I think Tilby mentioned trust, didn’t she? As children we all learned from Kaa the snake in the Jungle Book that trust should not always be given freely. What, you mean someone might not be telling you the truth to get their own way? ‘Trust In Me’ whether said by a snake wanting to eat you, a populist Prime Minister wanting to stay in office at all costs, or an ex-canon wanting to keep you believing in her particular IMF is something that you have to learn over time by understanding what people’s motives are.
    I watched Biden revealing the new photos from the Webb telescope and trusted that the scientists who created this fantastic new equipment have not paid a special effects studio to mock up an image. I might be wrong, and Capricorn One might also be a story based on real events, but the mass of data proves to me that is not the case.
    So why is someone who has reached retirement age still trusting in the same old religious claptrap that Tilby does, despite her obvious intelligence? What is it about the lack of evidence that makes her belief even stronger? Johnson has never put his hand on a woman’s thigh at a meal, Sunak has never withheld any details about his personal wealth or business affairs, Shapps only has the best considerations of the travelling public in mind in his dealings with the rail unions, etc etc, are all things I might trust in if I hadn’t been watching politicians for so long.
    The apostle’s creed which states “I believe in Jesus Christ, his only Son, our Lord, who was conceived by the Holy Spirit, born of the Virgin Mary, suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, died, and was buried; he descended to the dead. On the third day he rose again; he ascended into heaven, he is seated at the right hand of the Father, and he will come to judge the living and the dead,” has so many impossibilities in it, yet is still a statement that the likes of Tilby as a Christian stands by, so I find it impossible to trust her judgement in anything else.

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    1. That’s the point, isn’t it? As even Tilby admitted, the key issue isn’t trust, it’s trustworthiness. Some believers show themselves to be trustworthy about non-religious matters by carefully compartmentalising. The trouble with professional Christians, especially the speakers on TftD, is that they see everything, but everything, through faith-coloured spectacles. This completely undermines their credibility on pretty well everything they open their mouths about.

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  2. Trust, like respect, is something that has to be earned through actions and behaviours. One cannot demand trust or respect – those who do are the least deserving of them.

    It takes time to build up and seconds to destroy; once lost, it takes even more time/effort to be regained [if it can be at all].

    The absence of actions by an IMF have done little to build trust in the non-gullible parts of the population; the misdeeds of some [not all] ministers of faith and their adherents (of all religions – none seems to escape) are the reasons why respect and trust are so lacking today. Doubly so when the misdeeds are covered up / sanctioned / protected by the higher echelons.

    The overlaps in the Venn diagram of religion and politics is huge and represents a large proportion of the set of “Those seeking power over others”.

    For me, and I only speak for myself, politicians are effectively a choice of the “least worst”; organised religions are best avoided completely; in both cases their utterances can not be believed or trusted.

    One final observation: our PM will be chosen by about 200,000 Conservative voters — approximately the same number of people who died of Covid in the UK. I’m not drawing any conclusions from this, it’s just an uncanny coincidence.

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    1. “For me, and I only speak for myself, politicians are effectively a choice of the “least worst”; organised religions are best avoided completely; in both cases their utterances can not be believed or trusted.”

      Exactly my position also, Birch.

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    2. Hear hear. And while we’re talking about trustworthiness, we should remember that those 200,000 Tory party members are the ones who landed us with Johnson in the first place. how can we possibly trust them to make a sensible choice this time round, especially given the calibre of those who have thrown their hats in the ring?

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      1. In the summer of 2019 Tory members would have voted for Farage as they were so desperate to Get Brexit Done. Instead they overlooked all the moral and human failings of Johnson, which were as apparent then as now, as their best option. Get Brexit Done rather than Do What’s Right as I tried to explain to my MP recently.
        The rest of us will have to trust them again. Who knows what skeletons are rattling in the cupboards of those standing, but there is surely no one as bad as Johnson left to pick.

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