Rev Dr Sam Wells, Vicar of St Martin-in-the-Fields

The number of children in care is rising.

Jesus was a child once, which just goes to show that children are very important. Good job we Christians were around to explain this to you.

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6 thoughts on “Rev Dr Sam Wells, Vicar of St Martin-in-the-Fields

  1. ‘There are too many children in care today, and like all children they’re vulnerable and often in danger…. This makes them just like Jesus. “Christianity’s founded on a conviction that the creator and sustainer of the whole universe had a human mother, tottered as a child, and faced threats and perils from his first moment on earth. His birth was virtually outdoors, his cot an animal trough… etc etc” which makes him (for of course the creator and sustainer of the whole universe was a boy) just like children today…’

    If you’re going to attempt a parallel between the baby Jesus and the complexities and shortcomings of modern social care for children; probably not a good idea to trot out such a garbled heap of nonsense as this from your BBOMS. In any case, aside from the nativity and epiphany myths the BBOMS is silent on the childhood and adolescence of your man Jesus. Nothing whatever, beyond a tenuous link with a women called Elizabeth, is known about Mary’s background – she was just an available womb. Joseph (the father-but-not-the-father), being male, has his ancestral credentials laid out in two genealogical passages – which, unfortunately do not correspond. But if your man Jesus is ‘Son of God’ or ‘God Incarnate,’ ‘creator of the whole universe’ or whatever, surely he doesn’t need antecedents to give him street cred? It’s all a confusing mess, which is why most rational people don’t waste time trying to disentangle it all but wisely ignore the whole thing.

    The Rev Dr Wells might more profitably have weighed up how all the vulnerable baby Jesus and ‘suffer the little children’ stuff’ in his church sits in relation to its record on the treatment of children, and the long trail of criminal child abuse that it has been responsible for committing and covering up.

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  2. All is not well with smarmy Sam Wells and talk about children will not alter the fact that the Bible tells us to put away childish things and that as a child one thinks a child but now one is a man one should follow that advice. The fact that our government cannot look after children in the best way is not the fault of anyone in the churches who on the other hand are revealing a history of child abuse. Reverends like Sam Wells have no legs to stand on and the buck cannot be passed to them.

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  3. “Baby Harry lost both parents & was left with a scar on his forehead. It’s a sad tale but you never know what hard work & magic can achieve. As a practical suggestion for helping Harry & other children, er, Jesus loves them. Oh yes, he surely does. You’re welcome.
    “If you’ve been affected by any of the issues raised in this TFTD, don’t contact me.”

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  4. I don’t know which is more disturbing: Sam Wells’s lack of awareness in talking about the church’s attitude to children (including its policy of trying to indoctrinate them at the faith schools to which, all too often, their parents have to send them); or his ludicrous attempt to psychoanalyse Baby Jesus.

    As Liverpudlian points out, the tale of the flight to Egypt appears in only one Gospel (‘Matthew’), and the deliberate parallel with the Israelites’ earlier exodus and return (which didn’t happen either) is almost too obvious; I think I first noticed it when I was about 12. None of the Gospels says anything much about Jesus’s supposed childhood, probably because it wasn’t important to the agenda they were trying to peddle.* In particular, there is no evidence whatsoever that the sayings about children put into the mouth of Jesus were intended by their authors to refer to his own upbringing. Yet we are presumably meant to conclude that Sam Wells literally believes every word that he uttered this morning. Extraordinary.

    *It’s a shame that some of the ‘Gospels’ that do describe the childhood of Jesus never made it into the BBoMS. The one, for instance, where he makes sparrows out of handfuls of clay and turns them into live birds which fly away. Or the one where he strikes other children dead for making fun of him. That would make quite a good movie.

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    1. Very good reaction to this unctuous clergyman who seems to presume that Jesus would have a working memory of what went on when he was about two and so on and so forth with the persistent justification of seeing to refugees because of the Flight into Egypt. Has anyone pondered how horrible was the Massacre of the Innocents? Anyway good that you saw through this tissue of wishy washy thinking that has gone on in the Church at least since those terrible carols with all in white shall wait around that seem to think children of God are minors in and out of the clouds. There was an awful sect called just that but people have forgotten it.
      Just to let you know that Hilaire Belloc included a little piece about Jesus and the birds of clay among his very strange poetry. In those books that never made it to the Bible someone ran into Jesus and He struck him down for his pains and He also stretches wood to make it fit into holes in the carpenters shop. These accounts are full of holes and stretch the point of the Divine Child too far in another direction.

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  5. It has been quite a while since I actually heard a TftD. But this morning, as the stars aligned and we made the school run in record time, I was fortunate (?) enough to catch the back end of today’s offering. It has been such a long time since I last went to church that it came as something of a surprise to hear someone talking about the events of Jesus’ childhood as if they were real events that happened to real people. It seems odd that there are no contemporary accounts of the Slaughter of the Innocents or the civil unrest that would have surely followed such an atrocity.

    I was also able to see that the producers of the Today programme chose to follow the TftD with an item about the terrible consequences of the return of religious rule in Afghanistan.

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