Ven Elizabeth Adekunle, Anglican Priest and Chaplain, St John’s College Cambridge

And in the Big News today from a Faith Perspective, work. As a hard working venerable, I know that most people want to feel useful and productive, like me. That’s why the Invisible Magic Friend’s Holy Virus has been such a great opportunity for them.

11 thoughts on “Ven Elizabeth Adekunle, Anglican Priest and Chaplain, St John’s College Cambridge

  1. This comprised of a lot of waffle about what is now common knowledge about the benefits of useful and fulfilling work with a religious offering that said, did you know that the Old Testament (or is that the Hebrew Scriptures) told people to pay their employees on time? And after learning such heaven sent wisdom you heathens still don’t believe that there is a god.


    1. “Slaves, obey your masters.”
      As PaulT says, with “such heaven sent wisdom” at apologists’ disposal, how can unbelievers doubt the IMF & its goodness?


  2. Not only are the non-religious excluded from TftD but so is the vast majority of the religious. It’s a tiny, select pool they draw on. Second rate ‘thinkers’ who can be relied upon to toe the party line and endlessly churn out anodyne platitudes. Being a member of the TftD panel marks you out as someone guaranteed to say nothing controversial, guaranteed to say nothing worth listening to. Just the same old same old. From what little managed to penetrate my indifferent ears I’m guessing today’s was a classic example.


  3. Instead of the tedious Ven Adekunle and other middle of the road religionists, it’s about time that we heard from really radical religious people. What we want to hear from is a creationist evangelical Christian, a member of the Wahhabi Muslim sect, a member of the Hindu Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh movement, a Haredi Jew.
    It would certainly liven up the usual turgid two minutes forty five seconds.


  4. Nice idea, Paul, but it’s unlikely to happen, because those who run the BBC’s Department of Faith & Woo don’t know anyone like that. They have a roster of like-minded, well-educated, middle-class people, whom they have probably met several times at exciting inter-faith buffets or similar, and who can be relied on to provide a soporific mini-sermon at 7.45 in the morning without giving the half-listening audience too many palpitations.

    The Ven Adekunle falls neatly into that group. A lot of her nice middle-class friends have been able to change their jobs without difficulty (like the one in ‘research’, whatever that might mean, who has become a farmer: how is that even possible without a substantial financial cushion?) She ignored the many millions who are forced to remain in insecure jobs in the gig economy, or are in careers that don’t lend themselves to home working (try cleaning out sewers from your spare bedroom), or who are holding down two badly-paid jobs to pay the rent and feed the kids.

    Maybe the fact that HGV drivers are now being offered £50k+ salaries and signing-on bonuses might make us reassess which jobs are really important and which don’t contribute that much to society. Maybe.


    1. I think TftD has become more anodyne in the years I’ve been on this site, dating from around the time Clifford Longley, who could be very controversial, was dispatched. I think now the medium is the message. ” Say nothing contentious The fact we have the slot is more important than anything said on it.” Most of the time, the speakers just don’t seem to want their content to draw too much attention.

      Most of these would be around two/three on on the old platitudinous scale. Genuine fives seem much rarer.


  5. For the majority of people, work is the means by which they put food on the table, pay a mortgage, bring up children; it is the means of sustaining daily life. Some may enjoy the work they do; a very few might claim that their work is their prime enjoyment in life and not ‘work’ at all (perhaps clergy fall into this category – if not, why not?). Most of us cannot avoid having to work.

    Work and work conditions, rates of pay, concomitant rewards and benefits, have always been changing, and are still changing – many rapid changes have occurred as a result of the pandemic.

    All this is pretty obvious stuff; but what did the Venerable lady have to say about any of it ‘from a faith perspective?’ Given the very limited and sketchy scripture references, not a lot – indeed, nothing. Where was her faith perspective on the erosion of workers’ rights; the emasculation of union power; zero-hours contracts; people working for less than the minimum wage? Or, where was her faith perspective on massive city bonuses; overblown executive salaries; shareholders (the C of E?) benefitting from dividends without doing a tap – having ‘let their money upon usury’ (which her BBOMS prohibits).

    There was no ‘thought’ in this dreary ramble; and no ‘faith perspective.’ I think PaulT (above) has put his finger on it; TFTD needs some seriously committed faithful let loose on it; they’d certainly make the most over every last second of the two minutes forty-five!


  6. Since Jan 6th I have not listened to Thought for the Day. The fallout from the attempted Trump Coup and the near destruction of democracy in the USA has captivated my attention. Today though I listened to TftD for old times sake. That was a mistake. Such outmoded wafflecock delivered by such boringly predictable safe non thinkers has no place in a thinking persons daily routine. I’ll not be tuning in again. Instead I will continue to listen to podcasts of current affairs programming from the USA … Rachel Maddow, Anderson Cooper, Chris Hayes, Chris Cuomo et al. It is hair raising scary stuff, much of which has its roots in white evangelist fundamentalist extreme right wing racist conservative christian interference. Take a break from BBC R4 Today. Its not the same since John Humphrys quit anyway. Go listen to those podcasts. Open your ears to that which is underway in the USA. It will have tremendous impact on the rest of the world. And, to boot, save you from brain atrophy caused by too much exposure to humbug TftD.


    1. Although I get bored with the weak TFTD content I must admit that watching arguments over American right wing politics is a disheartening spectacle. Having to research online to try and wean my nephew off conspiracy theories about Covid on social media there is a clear thread back to the Republican War on Science, through the anti-anti-smoking “court the controversy” arguments to the creationist evangelical right wing Christians.
      To many in the USA, if scientists don’t believe in a six day creation then they can’t be trusted on anything else appears to be a dogma. So many anti-vaccination comments on social media in the US are backed up with “I’m praying hard that this all ends soon” or “I’m praying that you can continue to stand up to this bullying by the vaccination lobby”. You don’t get that religious content in the UK but I’m sure that’s where the mindset comes from.
      It’s good that there are liberals standing up to the nutty evenglicals, but thank the lord we don’t have that sort of argument on our UK news broadcasts.


      1. Yes, there’s a scary lack of critical thinking when some people are confronted with conspiracy theorists.
        They can’t tell the difference between a tinfoil-hatted loon & a respected scientist.
        It quite possible this kind of willing credulity is similar to the urge to invent & believe in IMFs. If so, such problems won’t go away soon.


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