Rev Lucy Winkett, Rector of St James Piccadilly, handy for Fortnum and Mason

Atheletes struggling to complete a feat of endurance are exactly like Christians.

Some weak minded, spiritually direction-less failures give up on Christianity at the very first hint of how stupid it is. But we Christians are determined. We have the courage to keep the faith. No matter how absurd, pointless and sectarian it is shown to be, we obstinately refuse to acknowledge that we’re a bunch of deluded fools.

That’s what makes us so much better than you.


21 thoughts on “Rev Lucy Winkett, Rector of St James Piccadilly, handy for Fortnum and Mason

  1. Another classic Mornington Crescent. As we were waiting for ‘the other shoe to drop’ I said to Mrs G “I bet it’ll be St Paul.” And lo it cme to pass that verily it was St Paul. The Old Tasty Mint is long gone and now it seems Jesus is going the same way; too strong meat for anodyne ‘please everyone/offend no-one’ thoughts. ‘Stick to St Paul’ seems to be the order of the day.


  2. When running a marathon, the goal is clear; cover 42.2 kilometres. You can time yourself to check progress. As can others.The miles/kilometres are marked off. There is proof by way of markers and chip timers that you completed the whole thing. There are people at the finish who are witnesses to you crossing the line.
    You do wonder sometimes why the hell you’re doing it,and,unlike Winkett ,you know your reasons are a product of your own consciousness. And if you’re aware of errors of cognition,you are partly aware of the fact that you are lying to yourself at times to keep training and running. So Winkett’s grand delusion does have at least that similarity.

    Not sure marathon runners have ever massacred a 10k field for not being true athletes ,though.


  3. Almost made me want to hear this one Peter.

    Thanks for all the Platitudes, they’re greatly appreciated.

    Bernie > > peterhearty8361 posted: “Atheletes struggling to complete a feat of > endurance are exactly like Christians. Some weak minded, spiritually > direction-less failures give up on Christianity at the very first hint > of how stupid it is. But we Christians are determined. We have the cour” >


  4. The Rev Dr Dr Peter is absolutely bang on the money, and as ever the subsequent comments save me a bit of typing.

    Using the word “spirituality” once is convenient; using it multiple times, as Winkett does, is a gargantuan intellectual cop-out. It’s a word open to so much pious equivocation that for everyday purposes – as in this TftD – it is rendered meaningless; the laziest, pseudo-profound facade in place of actually thinking about something.


  5. If you stop to think about it, the whole notion of a “spiritual journey” is a bit odd. After all, your particular religious leader and his BBoMS have laid down exactly what you have to do to achieve everlasting life, or nirvana, or whatever it is. Why put yourself through a discipline of strict routine, endless praying, and what Lucy Winkett called “revolutionary patience” (no, me neither) if you don’t need to?

    It’s not even as though it’s only Christians who behave like this. All religions have their adherents for whom this endless cycle of introspection and yearning seems to be an essential prop for their lives. The late Sister Wendy Beckett spent several hours a day just praying, meditating and reading holy texts. She didn’t even appear to enjoy it all the time: somewhere she made a comment about doing it because she felt compelled to. All religions down the ages have encouraged and supported similar practices.

    There are certainly a lot of Christians who spend much of their time on their “spiritual journey” because it gives them something to focus on instead of the actual problems of real life; in effect it’s a huge, self-perpetuating displacement activity. And it never ends: there will be no point at which Lucy Winkett will feel able to say to herself “Right, that’s it, spiritual journey over”, unlike the marathon runners , as AndyM says (and congrats to those in this community who made it to the finishing line last Sunday!) All very strange.


  6. I do it because I have type 2 diabetes and it is a choice of moving around a lot or a really restricted diet. Since I’m rather partial to pasta, pizza, chips and dishes with rice in, I use endurance events as a way of reducing insulin resistance and burning the carbs off. Next event is the Endure 24 near Leeds, basically just try to run as far as you can in 24 hours. Special tee shirt for anyone who can top a hundred miles, special landmark at 105 miles as that is just over four marathons.


    1. I thought I was doing rather well with 40 lengths of the pool… until a proud parent explained to me that the kids swimming classes do that as a warm up.

      Incidentally, did you see Daniel Greenberg’s offer to donate his TFTD fee to any charity that sponsors you on your marathon?


      1. Kudos to Daniel Greenberg; but they get PAID?! Certainly with regard to vicars and bishops etc it’s part of the job they’re already being paid to do?


      2. @Graham

        Indeed, and thanks to Daniel we now know how much they get paid. £90 for less than 3 minutes. That’s an hourly rate of £1800. Presumably that includes London weighting.


  7. I missed that so I’ve gone back to that thread and posted a link. It is here if anyone else is interested:

    In the accompanying picture, I am number 144 in the blue hoody. I know that I look a complete pillock but that picture was taken at a 10K that took place in February. Mrs. Stonyground is in the WHL top that has Liz on it.

    Talking about swimming, the iron distance swim is 3.8K which is 152 lengths of a 25 metre pool.


    1. Yes, well done indeed, Mr & Mrs Stonyground.
      You achieved a grand thing for a good cause. I hope your spirits didn’t hold you back or weigh you down in any way.


  8. @ Rev Peter: “£90 for less than 3 minutes.” Well to be fair, we should add on a couple of hours for travel to/from the studio. On the other hand the slot’s usually a opportunity for a 3 minute commercial [worth a fortune given that it’s prime time on a flag-ship programme] so there’s a good case for them to be paying the BBC.


  9. I had the thought that Daniel will be getting into trouble for letting secrets out, they might not be asking him back. My daughter who seems to know about such things, says that if you were to write say, a three minute comedy slot, ninety quid would be about the going rate.
    One thing that I discovered over the weekend, auto correct renders Cutty Sark as Curry Shark.


  10. Kudos to Daniel for that very handsome gesture. And it is great to see one of the participants in TftD prepared to respond and engage in the way that he has. It would be good fun if some of the others did so too.

    And this cuts both ways. We are used to taking the mickey out of the absurd contortions we hear TftD speakers getting into. Maybe we can react to Daniel’s Thoughts in a way that allows us to have an interesting dialogue – and, perhaps, convey an attitude other than ‘grumpy’!.


    1. Grumpy eh. Not so much grumpy as deeply deeply frustrated and justifiably resentful how those with nonsensical beliefs in god exert their ideals upon ordinary people. Example … preventing me from chosing the time and place of my own death while I struggle on in great pain and watch the distress of my family as I do so. Thats one example. There are many more. No not grumpy … not grumpy at all. Resentful that the pious prolong my pain and simultaneously get to air their views on national radio, unchallenged, whilst I am not allowed to die peacefully.


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